Curse

gasmaskman · Nov 02, 2007, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

It's irresponsible. You have maybe 50k PvPers (a very broad number) waiting on a skill balance, and then you say "Oh, I play Guild Wars occasionally?" Even moreso when Izzy is the only person who is incharge of skill balancing.

Izzy didn't say "Oh, I play TF2 a little bit, I like it

" He said:

"horribly addicted?"

I really wonder what his monatery salary is.

OMG HE PLAYS TF2 IN HIS FREETIME ALL THE TIME WHAT SHALL WE DO?!?!?!?!

You seriously sound like you think Izzy plays TF2 while he works. LOL!! It's not irresponsible at all.

street peddler · Nov 02, 2007, 01:24 AM // 01:24

hes observes pvp?

Shadowfox1125 · Nov 02, 2007, 01:24 AM // 01:24

In the words of the great Heavy Weapons Guy..

"Cry some more! BWAHAHAHA!"

It's not like Izzy's playing TF2 on the job or anything..

Alexandra-Sweet · Nov 02, 2007, 01:26 AM // 01:26

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

This thread = Why Anet should never, ever, listen to anything said on GWO.

So you're saying they shouldn't listen to you and what you just posted?

Bryant Again · Nov 02, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

I like where this thread is goin'!

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

TF2 is a greatly balanced game, with great team based gameplay and unique and fun classes to play.

Guild Wars can learn a lot from it!

TF2 is balanced because there isn't really much to balance. Give all the classes in that game as many different weapons as there are skills in GW, and then compare the two.

wilebill · Nov 02, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Well, more nerfs. Possibly there will be some buffs if Izzy can find time for them. Wait and see.

Problem is, each round of nerfs further erodes the player base, and that is not a healthy situation if ANet seriously intends to produce a GW2.

Yichi · Nov 02, 2007, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

random crap

do you even think before you post your useless PVP flamefest? notice how EVERY ONE of the items I hinted at and suggested too effect PvE in almost no way at all and will not change a damned thing. You felt the need to randomly throw out a bunch of useless mis-information and the need to bash PvP, while there are as many influences from PvE that can effect PvP gameplay such as heroes and the introduction of PvE oriented maps and win conditions into competitive PvP arenas, but yet when this point is brought up, you and everyone else thats a total and utter PvE carebear decides to just bandwagon against PvP because of the fact that the game balances revolve around PvP.

Guess what genius, its always been this way, and will always be this way. If this wasn't the type of gameplay that you were looking for, than perhaps you have invested way too much into a game that was ment to be centrally balanced around the PvP aspect of the game.

Jetdoc · Nov 02, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Now I have a big hankerin' to go try Team Fortress 2....

THANKS A LOT IZZY!#!@!@!

Karyuu · Nov 02, 2007, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Now I have a big hankerin' to go try Team Fortress 2....

Won't regret it :D

Cobalt · Nov 02, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Guess what genius, its always been this way, and will always be this way. If this wasn't the type of gameplay that you were looking for, than perhaps you have invested way too much into a game that was ment to be centrally balanced around the PvP aspect of the game.

It was never ment to be centrally balanced around the PvP aspect of the game, PVP was an afterthought.

Chris Blackstar · Nov 02, 2007, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by booooYA

Yes you're right. I know jack. What was I even thinking?

If your skills suck then maybe you're just not playing right? I'm not implying you're a crappy player by any means but maybe you're just not using viable builds. I have no problems going through PvE with ease and fun. Your logic just makes no sense. Fight without skills in PvP? WTF does that have to do with anything?

My skills are fine, in fact I would give it all up, heros, consumables, PvE only skills, as long as all the nerfted items in GW were returned back to normal or better.

Ok, maybe saying you know nothing was wrong, sorry. But don't stand there and say PvE is cake, then say Anet make it more a piece of cake with extras, that may be true, but I should not be made to suffer for the minority of PvP players who could care less about skill balance as me. Izzy and those who regulate him are the asses here, they want diversity at the cost of the PvE community. Now I finally understand why so many MMO's have a monthly fee, if you screw your customers, your out of business.

Fitz Rinley · Nov 02, 2007, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

do you even think before you post your useless PVP flamefest? notice how EVERY ONE of the items I hinted at and suggested too effect PvE in almost no way at all and will not change a damned thing. You felt the need to randomly throw out a bunch of useless mis-information and the need to bash PvP, while there are as many influences from PvE that can effect PvP gameplay such as heroes and the introduction of PvE oriented maps and win conditions into competitive PvP arenas, but yet when this point is brought up, you and everyone else thats a total and utter PvE carebear decides to just bandwagon against PvP because of the fact that the game balances revolve around PvP.

Guess what genius, its always been this way, and will always be this way. If this wasn't the type of gameplay that you were looking for, than perhaps you have invested way too much into a game that was ment to be centrally balanced around the PvP aspect of the game.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bullshit and you know it!

Everything I said was and remains 100% true. There is no misinformation in it. None. And nothing from PvE Effects PvP. Whatever PvP wants they get. If they didn't changes to provide variety they wouldnt have gotten them. But they cried for them so the got them. And no place in anything I read when the game was advertised from the time they started asking for Beta players did it ever say, "We are looking for a PvP centered game with a little story thing on the side for minimal fun and temporary enjoyment." The game was supposed to be balanced based on things working interactively for both equally - an experiment that has obviously totally Failed!

And WTF was with changing Seed of Life? Care to explain that one? Its so totally useful to get 20 to 40 health for 5 cost every 25 seconds. Wow, I am so impressed. Lets just dump Word of Healing and go with that. I wont ever need Orison again. Healing Seed just can't compare. Healing Breeze - what a has-been compared to the SS skill. But we damn sure need PvP skills balanced to the point of destroying PvE players.

Yes, I do know people who use some of those build bases in PvE. And then there are the quests, like this last Dragon Festival which were designed for PvP elite build teams, instead of casual players.

And then someone thinks the Glacial Griffon is going to be nerfed just as much as the players. So, what are they gonna do - take away his skill points? Sorry Glashe, we know you are 28th level, but you will have to give up 15 Atts per level since we couldn't keep your dissonance from disrupting, and you know we raised bloodsong up to cost 15 - so we are going to have to drop your energy level so you can't cast it. And btw - take this hitpoint reduction collar so you will be closer to a one on one fight with a 20th level. And yeah, since we said you don't have any ability to heal we will have to take away that boss status thing with the auto health regen and the elite skills. That will help you get nerfed enough to equal what we are doing to the PvE players so we can satisfy our PvP preferred customers.

Div · Nov 02, 2007, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

what usuran blessing not easy enough for the PvE crowd?

No, I've heard complaints about normal mode being too hard with ursan blessing and consumables.

Avarre · Nov 02, 2007, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Stop talking about skill balances if you don't understand game balance or game mechanics at all.

Since I doubt anyone will listen to me when I say that, I will help you do so.

Locked.